I have come across this story on a few different places on internet message boards. Now every time I have come across it the LGBT community in large numbers have defended her actions blindly, in an attempt to justify her actions. This bemuses me beyond belief.
Now I have looked at several different sources on this incident and there is no great deal of difference in who said what and what happened. The basic facts are three undesirable people made some offensive comments; her and a group of her friends went to confront them. She was attacked by one of the women in the undesirable group which lead to her retaliating and stabbing fatally a man; who had at most only said some offensive comments.
Now the LGBT community seem to think that her actions were that of self-defence, which on consideration of the facts this is a stupid accretion. As the confrontation which lead on to her assault and the fatal stabbing was something that she created, she had the option to ignore the possible situation and move on. At this point it’s gone from there being any possible innocent people involved to people participating in civil disorder, which ultimately lead to murder.
I even took time to look at the laws for murder and self-defence in the state of Minnesota, which for murder are actually straight forwards. Which if you impose the facts in to them there is no grounds for a claim of self-defence, yet these people seem to think that she should somehow be allowed to claim self-defence.
Now one of the most alarming comments I read on this whole issue was, that the murder victim as he had a past of violent criminal convictions and he was supposedly a member of a Neo-Nazi group and was inherently homophobic and transphobic that it was fine for her to kill him. The justification for this was, that well he may have at some point in the future tried to kill her. Now if this was any form of justification for murder then it would give just about everyone the possibility to go and murder who they wanted to, because that person at some point may want to kill them.
Now what worries me is the strange disregard for the rule of law, and how that if someone from a class of people you belong to does something wrong that they defend them to the hilt, regardless of what they have done. It is as if these people become somehow blinded by the fact that the person involved is like them in some way.
People need to wake up to reality, and it’s not just the LGBT community it’s all minority groups. You may want to think that your little clique is perfect and no one does anything wrong because they have something in common with you. Well that’s a load of poppy cock every minority group has rotten eggs in it, its part of life. To blindly defend someone’s actions because of who they are is just wrong and will lead the world to a very bad place.
As where would it stop? If they are happy to defend someone who commits murder or child abuse or grievous bodily harm because well they are kind of like us. Do we carry on do we start trying to justify that locking up Dennis Nilsen was wrong because he was a gay man or we shouldn’t lock up Muslim paedophiles because the Muslim community says a proper Muslim can’t be a paedophile.
Civil society says that if someone breaks the law we should punish that person, and that it doesn’t matter if that person is LGBT, religious, from another country, male or female or even from another planet. If someone breaks the law they should be put on trial and if convicted punished accordingly. We should not start to let people off because of what could have happened if they didn’t do something, or because we think that maybe it’s a bit harsh that they are being put on trial.
This all comes down to the fact that as a society we seem to have lost the grasp that people are accountable for their own actions. If that person does something they shouldn’t do they have to face the consequences, there should be no exceptions; and the rest of us should not try and justify the un-justifiable. As it makes you look foolish and almost as bad a person as the perpetrator.
Now I have looked at several different sources on this incident and there is no great deal of difference in who said what and what happened. The basic facts are three undesirable people made some offensive comments; her and a group of her friends went to confront them. She was attacked by one of the women in the undesirable group which lead to her retaliating and stabbing fatally a man; who had at most only said some offensive comments.
Now the LGBT community seem to think that her actions were that of self-defence, which on consideration of the facts this is a stupid accretion. As the confrontation which lead on to her assault and the fatal stabbing was something that she created, she had the option to ignore the possible situation and move on. At this point it’s gone from there being any possible innocent people involved to people participating in civil disorder, which ultimately lead to murder.
I even took time to look at the laws for murder and self-defence in the state of Minnesota, which for murder are actually straight forwards. Which if you impose the facts in to them there is no grounds for a claim of self-defence, yet these people seem to think that she should somehow be allowed to claim self-defence.
Now one of the most alarming comments I read on this whole issue was, that the murder victim as he had a past of violent criminal convictions and he was supposedly a member of a Neo-Nazi group and was inherently homophobic and transphobic that it was fine for her to kill him. The justification for this was, that well he may have at some point in the future tried to kill her. Now if this was any form of justification for murder then it would give just about everyone the possibility to go and murder who they wanted to, because that person at some point may want to kill them.
Now what worries me is the strange disregard for the rule of law, and how that if someone from a class of people you belong to does something wrong that they defend them to the hilt, regardless of what they have done. It is as if these people become somehow blinded by the fact that the person involved is like them in some way.
People need to wake up to reality, and it’s not just the LGBT community it’s all minority groups. You may want to think that your little clique is perfect and no one does anything wrong because they have something in common with you. Well that’s a load of poppy cock every minority group has rotten eggs in it, its part of life. To blindly defend someone’s actions because of who they are is just wrong and will lead the world to a very bad place.
As where would it stop? If they are happy to defend someone who commits murder or child abuse or grievous bodily harm because well they are kind of like us. Do we carry on do we start trying to justify that locking up Dennis Nilsen was wrong because he was a gay man or we shouldn’t lock up Muslim paedophiles because the Muslim community says a proper Muslim can’t be a paedophile.
Civil society says that if someone breaks the law we should punish that person, and that it doesn’t matter if that person is LGBT, religious, from another country, male or female or even from another planet. If someone breaks the law they should be put on trial and if convicted punished accordingly. We should not start to let people off because of what could have happened if they didn’t do something, or because we think that maybe it’s a bit harsh that they are being put on trial.
This all comes down to the fact that as a society we seem to have lost the grasp that people are accountable for their own actions. If that person does something they shouldn’t do they have to face the consequences, there should be no exceptions; and the rest of us should not try and justify the un-justifiable. As it makes you look foolish and almost as bad a person as the perpetrator.
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